Talk:Fraternal Order of the Raven

We all know that Booth was the real demon. ZanyDragon (talk) 12:38, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

And what's the deal with the "Serpent of Nations"? ZanyDragon (talk) 05:04, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

Booth was clearly a sinner, plain and true! ZanyDragon (talk) 03:54, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, we all agree. Why are you restating this?

Unownshipper (talk) 06:34, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

What is the significance of the "Serpent of Nations"? ZanyDragon (talk) 05:07, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

I Don't Buy It

A wiki contributor added this tidbit to the Behind the Scenes section:

*If one is to speed up the enviromental sound in the Raven headquarters significantly, one can hear that the enviromental sound is actually a song. This song is slowed down so much so that a singing female voice can only be heard as a very low pitched noise. This is also present in one of the houses in the Comstock Center Rooftops . You can find a video here .

Not to be rude, but I think people are looking too much into this. If you play anything at 1000% it's bound to sound like something different. It's like people who play The Beatles' White Album in reverse and hear satanic messages or seeing Jesus face in a piece of toast. Or what about the endless parade of people who claim to hear Songbird's screech in Fort Frolic?

This is sounding like trivia more than behind the scenes information. If this really sounded like a song it'd be one thing, but what are the "lyrics" supposed to be saying? In the same video the vocalizations sound masculine at just a few hundred percent slower speed. Maybe this should be removed from the main page, thoughts?

Unownshipper (talk) 08:10, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

You should see how many crap these youtube videos can bring on, just like the Songbird cry in the original BioShock... I swear sometimes wikis can even be more accurate than any gaming websites, even regarding walkthroughs. Still, I find this potential Easter Egg to be more believable than any other we refuted, mostly because the background ambient audio track at normal speed sounds weird enough to have been something completely different before being slowed down. Pauolo (talk) 10:00, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Going to have to agree with Unownshipper on this one. The human mind looks for paterns by nature and will see them even when they are not there. It may sound like a voice, but it does not mean there is one there. And I do not think it is a voice due to how quickly the sounds can change. As for the Songbird death sound, it might be the same sound or and latered version. People DO resuse stuff. sm --Solarmech (talk) 12:08, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

If this post I made is just not right, than remove it. Now that I think of it, you are right. And by the way, the songbird cry enviromental sound is used in ALL Bioshock games, including 2 and infinite.

 

Irrational Games has always recycled a few sounds and ideas here and there, like the syringe sound coming from System Shock 2. It doesn't surprise me for that one too. Pauolo (talk) 12:55, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

I wouldn't call it an Easter Egg considering it isn't pointed towards anything (like the Pac-Man cheese in the Farmer's Market or the Romeo and Juliet dialog in the Possession vigor(/plasmid...)). You can definitely hear a female voice, but its not a song, its just the same words on a loop. Like Paulo implied, they most likely used an old audio file and changed it to fit in to the ambiance. --Shacob (talk) 15:43, October 31, 2014 (UTC)